EOS Li QiyVs Pre Retcon Beyonder Both are bloodlusted Both have basic knowledge of each other The battle takes place in a Nuetral location @DivineMaRound 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. let's wait and see his actual feats. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. Pre-Retcon Beyonder: Most powerful version of Beyonder, stronger then the Living Tribunal but weaker then T. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. Aetherius is a larger infinity than Oblivio and encompasses its entirety, existing as a static realm of pure Anuic Light where all things exist in pure, timeless harmony. Minor nitpick. And post retcon… well Peter Parker had his power for one billionth of a second a rewrote all of reality. Thanos Hotu and Great Evil Beast 49%. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are. For now pre retcon beyonder has the advantage imo. Living tribunal. The Beyonder is far, far beyond a Multiversal. #11. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. Thought Robot without any effort. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. Fighting place: Dr. Dreamxd26. User Lists: 20 Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. Period. Shinra destroys their narrative 68%. @kingant27: nah, I actually do not think Michael can beat pre retcon beyonder, and Michael is far more powerful than lucifer who is equal to LT and can only win by manipulation. Eru Iluvatar is more like SCP 3812 but. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. As PRB is an embodiment of Infinite Dimensions + Beyonder Realm in totality, and there is no evidence that Demonbaneverse is. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. pre retcon beyonder: can destroy an infinite-d multiverse and exists independently of it. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. But it wont be easy by no means. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. The beyonder is a person from another plane of existence called the beyond which is larger than the marvel multiverse. Post-Retcon Molecule Man. Thanos w IG and heart of the universePre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. You need to be logged in to post comments. #1. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . As a scientist, Doctor Manhattan is all about doing things step by step. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (as in, during Secret Wars II) was more powerful than the in-universe hand of the author. FIRST COSMOS. The Tree of Knowledge alone contains infinite multiverses and aleph infinities and The Scarlet King could effortlessly destroy it. Going by Cosmology Tiering. . Interesting. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. GEB=Anti Pressence. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. Motivation: Both want to kill each other. ago. This has to be a joke wtf. FIRST COSMOS. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Shuma Gorath. There are Infinite, far less. But beyonder that isn’t pr gets absorbed. Thanos (w/ HOTU) vs. Thanos wins them all unless its Thanos vs OAA. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. The scarlet demon is omnipresent throughout the narrative stacks and normal SK is just a mere avatar of the scarlet demon. All indications are that. The Crimson King Edit: Different sizes of infinity. Wiki Points. Pages with a quote from this character will automatically be added here along with the quote. Pre retcon beyonder solos his own verse is larger than the maverl omniverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder should not even consider Demonbane. She surpasses him in raw power by far. I really can't be asked to go. New comments cannot be posted. Doom, when has anything even close to that happened to the Tribunal? My point is Marvel states he is the one thing/person/entity that. 4 years ago. Mxy is done. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL. He would erase him from existence. 8 years ago. So ultimately I don't see beyonder and molecule man taking out this Eldritch incarnation. 3. While pre retcon beyonder almost gets argued for a lose against toaa after a hard fought battle! So i think pre retcon beyonder = the presence. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. Pre Retcon Beyonder VS Azathoth 179 results 1 2 3 4 #1 Edited By deactivated-5fb6c77c8d900 I see alot of extrenely OP character being pitted against. The people at Marvel Comics figured it was a dumb idea, so they changed (or retconned) it. Not to say he's necessarily just a planetary threat now. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. 4 years ago. The mightiest beings (Living Tribunal) are microbes to him. CsmicRanker1314 1. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Originally posted by Endless Mike Not as powerful as Squirrel Girl Isn't SG like tied with TOAA in power or something? She stomps all of fiction at the same time, and does it repeatedly over and over again. Jack Kline can’t do shit. No prep and no knowledge. Don't think God Thing's H4X compares. VS. Anti-Monitor's probably on the scale of pre-retcon Molecule Man, a foe that Beyonder was able to beat. BEYONDERSIn fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. Poll Shinra Banshoman vs Pre Retcon Beyonder and Lucifer Morningstar (115 votes) Beyonder and Lucifer erase Shinra on accident 16%. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. thtadthtshldntb Anti nBSG Troll. I can only speak of Pre-Retcon Beyonder since that is who I am familiar with, but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. Scarlet King (SCP) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Pre-Retcon Molecule Man (Marvel) R2:The scarlet demon, WOW I am speechless. Idk its hard to say because the beyonders who destroyed eternity infinity and all the cosmic entities, it took time for them to do that but the Marquis of Death waved his hand and they all died. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Even if Thanos had 100 years prep and had the IG, PR Beyonder erases him from existence with his hand. Even if that IG (which was a modern variant which has barely any universal feats) was the multiversal one it was during the Infinity Gauntlet saga, it would still not be enough to match pre retcon Beholder. HeartLesS 25 d . Doom, when has anything even close to that happened to the Tribunal? My point is Marvel states he is the one thing/person/entity that. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. 7 Doctor Manhattan: Methodical. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. 3. Post-retcon Beyonder loses hands-down. @whydama: well beyonder was stated to be millions of times more powerful than all the. I realize that this doesn't exactly answer your question. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Mismatch. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. Jmarshmallow. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, represented by Amendment50 Elder God Demonbane, represented by God_Vulcan PLEASE VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU THINK DEBATED THE BEST, NOT WHICH CHARACTER. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs The Darkest Knight Round 3: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Cosmic Armor Superman Round 4: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs The Empty Hand Round 5: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs all of them This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted. Pre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. 17 Ginriu. The Beyonder is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Ima go with byonder. so the Doomslayer stomps. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. But Lucifer. A. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. COIE Monitors cited as. Even Molecule Man at the height of his powers was almost nothing to Beyonder. HD wallpapers and background images. (Please add any important quotations that may be missing, ensuring to cite the original source. #4. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. No matter how you interpret the effects of the Retcon, Beyonder can no longer be stated to be above Authorial fiat. Yeah Mxy is tough as shit, and probably wont go down. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. He's about cause and effect and. If he can beat beyonder, he wins 10/10 because he would know the correct path in every timeline, which he exists in, because he is omnipresent. Lucifer is a different beast. Reviews: 0. Jul 2, 2016. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. The original Beyonder was a failed Cosmic Cube, the second one was a failed Cosmic Power, and the third one was a failed Cosmic Force. Win by destroying or sealing opponent. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was also omnipotent "And another "slight" parameter. Maybe I have used faulty logic regarding this. Doctor strange opens one in front and back. Note: While the Beyonder's existence is often divided between "pre-retcon" and "post-retcon" in relation to the original Secret Wars, this is not entirely accurate. ago. Beyonder made everything happen,every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making Beyonder can rewriter everything,Even rewriter "Pre-recton Beyonder" into "SW3" HOTU never have. The same way how Marvel was back then a multiverse. 5 years ago. Thanos wins this. PRE-RETCON BEYONDER? All of them are BLOODLUSTED! TOAA is the special referee! DB universe characters start at their maximum power and are already at their most powerful form! 14 years ago. The Beyonder was surprised by Mephisto. Dec 24, 2015. He needed to use his entire power to kill mistress death which left. As you can see in the marvel hierarchy the one above all is at the very top. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. 2. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. lmao Also classic Marvel supporters. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL Existence(or, All-Fiction)". TOAA has complete control over every universe including 616. Even The. 4 years ago. Wiki Points. The beyonder has way better feats. If he can beat beyonder, he wins 10/10 because he would know the correct path in every timeline, which he exists in, because he is omnipresent. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Who is pre Retcon beyonder? Summary. She/Her. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. R3 - Inhuman/Mutant Beyonder faces the 5. First, that was a bad parody of Aquiles. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1 Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal 4 years ago #2. Bait? 1 year ago. Do a list of spells, after pre retcon beyonder turns around. TOAA wins either way though. The events of Secret Wars I and II were not removed from canon, what changed was the Beyonder's relationship with the other cosmic entities. Pre retcon beyonder was absolutely omnipotent, the equal of the one above all. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has no physical form, no spiritual form, and or astral form but can take on these forms when he chooses and Beyonder was once Infinite Dimensional and even still his physical form. Tons of awesome Beyonder wallpapers to download for free. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Forum Posts. . Battle for the title of 2nd strongest Marvel Character. pre retcon molecule man vs. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. Victory conditions: for the beyonder it is to destroy the entire race of time lords, for the time lords it is killing or making the beyonder surrender. 548. Beyonder's best feats consist of warping reality on a Multiversal scale in his fight with MM, and being millions of times stronger than anyone in the marvel multiverse, but that's only impressive up to a certain point before it becomes. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. K. He encountered the child Beyonder in the latter's. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder = TOAA > Eternity 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube (Because part of the power was in Owen Reece) Recent Retcon Beyonder < the marvel abstracts but not by much. Round 1: CAS vs. KuRuPT Thanosi. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. You need to be logged in to post comments. -Everything in bleach. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has been stated to be only millions of times more powerful than a multiverse, which means he has a level of dimensionality that's in the millions or is otherwise infinite. Round 4: All-Mighty vs The three of them. Beyonder is just Metaverse level or Low Metaverse. TOAA is God of Marvel while PR Beyonder is a much bigger god. Beyonder if what I hear of Gan/Crimson King is true (and. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Oblivion. Follow 22700. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. 43. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. (Like many of these fights) Universal Steve. Batman (just kidding) 10 years ago. If that's the case, Team 2 stomps. . He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. Manhattan's league. There's no feats indicating that the Pre-Retcon Beyonder would be able to get through the Doomslayer's armor. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. #1 Thanatic. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. #1. 0. Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. If the race, then that is a good battle. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. 14 years ago. Beyonder was an alien entity from Marvel comics who was a multiversal threat and a hero. Cosmic armor supes needs a downgrade soon. bigbran. The Two fight in the beyond realm. well omnipotent. Beyonder Pré-Retcon foi uma das Entidades mais poderosas da #Marvel, ficando até mesmo acima do Tribunal Vivo, ele é bem conhecido por ter criado a Saga Guer. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. Lucifer is way above pre Retcon BeyonderPRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. If not, Team 2 with some trouble, since PRB<HOTU. It's similar to how using the Super Exciting guides for SSJ Multipliers should not take away from Goku's feats in 1990 when his SSJ form alone in the Namek Saga was far above a Galaxy busting Freiza. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. First is the. Beyonder was a formless mindless white space above the Multiverse, made purely. Poll Eru Iluvatar vs Beyonder ( Pre Retcon ) (41 votes) Eru 61%. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. 4 years ago #3. #1 Omega48. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. The Beyonder was also stated to be "Beyond the Marvel Multiverse/Omniverse" which means that, he was beyond "Infinite-Dimensions" or "Trans-Infinity". R. His presence alone destroyed infinite universes. There is literally nothing that OPM could do to even affect him. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Oblivion. g. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). "No other force or power in existence could. 7. The All-Mighty (SCP) vs TOAA, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and Oblivion (Marvel) All of them at their strongest. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. FollowRound 5: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man vs God Emperor Doom Round 6:Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God Emperor Doom Bonus Round: Protege vs God Emperor Doom This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A GregLeagueGamingAlt •. 3. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Beyonder (Earth-616)/Quotes Category page. Gan and Crimson King are basically super-amped versions of P. Pre-Retcon Beyonder Vs. It's Shown Here that both beyonder and GoS Loki have Immersion, from traveling between stories/realities from the first scan, second scan show Fictional Interaction,. The Soruce(DC) 5. @rabumalal: Dream would probably solo LT hes near pre-retcon beyonder level at best read into his feats. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. " Uhhh, yes it does. A Pre-Retcon Beyonder is beyond the Galaxy, beyond Dimensions, beyond the Multi Verse and should easily stomp the absolute shit out of whatever pseudo intellectual Neil Gaiman fake mystic mumbo. And yeah he stomps. Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. 3. deactivated-621c40d36c53f. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. Beyonder 39%. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". Living Tribunal >>>>>Pre-Retcon Beyonder>>>>>White crown phoenix "and yet Phoenix Rachel shocked the Beyonder. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. Lucifer is a different beast. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. Thanos wins them all unless its Thanos vs OAA. In The Complete Secret Wars #3, Pre-Retcon Beyonder opined that Stephan Strange is stronger than any in the multiverse suspect and had the opportunity to seal him in a pocket dimension ridding the multiverse of him forever. Even though most of Beyonder's feats in SW are still canon, Doom's statement could have *only* been in reference to POST-retcon (ie. Hell even Strange Visitor Superman with scaling off of Mxy could take Pre-Retcon Beyonder. (Like many of these fights) Universal Steve. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. Well pre-retcon beyonder was able to erase marvels death. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. 4 years ago. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. deactivated-5ffd6af867550. " lord marvel is said to be omnipotent and he can get smacked up. Learn about his origin, power, and feats in this article. 5 years ago. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. Most being have failed, and only two holds the hope of all creation. Prepare for. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. Galactus is fodder here. The Beyonder “realizes” something. Follow 1963. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. 2. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. WF Mxy vs Pre Retcon Beyonder is basically picking which company you like more : DC or Marvel. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. No one. That was an accident. 103. PR Beyonder curbstomps. 0. I know what the title of the series is and I know the beyonder is extremely powerful but so is the HOTU. 9 years ago. vs. The difference between that portrayal and what Pre-Crisis Superman was capable of is most likely over a dozen orders of magnitude greater than the one between an amoeba and Pre-Crisis Superman. Follow 23035. Thanks!!!!!fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Post-Retcon Beyonder: A cosmic cube being that had split in half, the other side being Molecule Man. His accident poked a pinhole into the universe of a child Beyonder, and the energy from that universe empowered him. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. Who wins this? r/whowouldwin •. According to that one guy Anos could do it,. Team 2 = Fusion mode. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is far. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. the retcon. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. He is. TOAA is God of Marvel while PR Beyonder is a much bigger god. Sep 20, 2018. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)PennywiseThe Crimson King. unlimited power to manipulate matter and energy; invulnerable. 0. Prior to being retconned totally out of power and relevance, the Beyonder was basically the most powerful being in all of Marvel comics, totally. His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. Battles. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. Locked post. LT has no jurisdiction over Phoenix which is why he. Originally posted by the DarkoneBefore they were retconned, Beyonder and Molecule Man we nearly omnipotent. Because there is no "pre-retcon" Beyonder in Marvel canon -- that is nothing more than a made-up battleboard term. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth’s. No, he is likely Presence level. 2. canon) Beyonder, because again: "pre-retcon. Definitely Beyonder. This is a spite thread then . Eternity, Death, Infinity, Oblivion. The Beyonder asks Molecule Man a question and doesn’t know if he can sacrifice Dave. Beyonder Spider-Man vs Naruto, MHA, Bleach, One Piece, Magi, Umineko, Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya verses. u/nullfather can attest to that. He represented everything outside the Marvel Universe, while TOAA represents MU. The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Also the Doomslayer has way more fighting and combat feats. Do not make any Thanos with HOTU vs threads. There are more multiverses in existence than stars in the sky. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. Kingant27. From Lucifer #37. You do realize Pre-Retcon Beyonder is like, the second or third most powerful comic book character ever, while Anti-Monitor wouldn't even be in the Top 10. A being who is millions of times stronger than the marvel Multiverse vs a. @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite.